UPDATE (12:04): Bob’s got the details of Jean Schmidt’s lying. She knew Tom Noe, the disastrous manager of the Ohio coin fund, quite well. She was part of the corruption in Ohio. It’s time for Jean to come clean.
Bob’s pulled out the siren for something big at noon, CST today. Make sure you stick around the Swing State Project or here to find out what the big news is.
You silly little librulz. This is the age of the internet. I can’t believe you would try to put up easily refutable stories linking Schmidt to Tom Noe.
I understand your frustration about what a poor candidate Hackett the liar turned out to be, put you are really looking desparate and pathetic.
I live in Milford, OH where Hackett was once on council. He really was a creep then and it doesn’t appear that he’s changed much.
It’s Schmidt in a landslide!!!
well ifin u like liers and corruption then u have to luv her ppl that are against the american way willgive into this blatant bullshit u are woefully ignorant u belive party comes before democracy u are a as bad as bin laudin u want nothing more than for this country to be brought down to its knee’s in favor of a facist nation
Crapdog (ironic name, isn’t it?): can you please give me one piece of evidence that refutes the fact that Jean Schmidt indeed did not know Tom Noe, even though she had spoken before the Ohio Board of Regents and he made note of her personally in the records, as well as the fact that he testified before her committee in the Ohio State House?
As for your personal beliefs, whatever. Thank God idiocy isn’t contagious.
Chris Woods…. it is so much fun to watch you Democrat wing nuts make asses (ironic, isn’t it?) of yourselves. (sigh) This is too easy:
Contrary to the rather misleading wording of the committee report , the Communications Committee meeting was not held the day of the retreat. It was held on March 21, 2002.
The minutes report that Thomas Noe was not in attendance at the meeting where Schmidt made her presentatin.
Also, you wing nuts are claiming a connection because Noe addressed the Higher Education Subcommittee, of which Ms. Schmidt was Vice-chair. This was in March 2003. SCMIDT WAS NOT ON THE COMMITTEE IN 2003. HER COMMITTEE TERM ENDED AT THE END OF CALENDAR YEAR 2002. A guy by the name of Jimmy Stewart was Vice-chair at that time.
Dumb, dumb, dumb.It’s Schmidt in a landslide. Hackett seriously is a creep!
I realize the Communications Committee had their retreat with Rep. Schmidt on March 20, 2002, not March 21, which was the day of the actual regents meeting. But the minutes that are linked to in the story (from Swing State Project) clearly say that Tom Noe was at the Regents meeting…it doesn’t say whether or not he attended the retreat the day before, but I would assume he did. Until you can show me definitive proof he wasn’t there, don’t make accusations.
As to Noe’s testimony before the Finance Subcommittee on Higher Education, I cannot find any documentation of the members at the time, only for the present.
Chris Woods…wow…this is very weird for me. I’m used to communicating with people with at least a modicum of sense.
You’ve taken the fact that Tom Noe’s name is on the minutes of the Regents meeting of the 21st as proof that he was at a completely different meeting the day before?
You want me to prove he wasn’t there???? You want me to prove a negative?
You “assume” he was there??? This is your evidence he was???
As far as the Finance Subcommittee on Higher Education, Schmidt had not been a part of it since the end of 2002. Jimmy Stewart was vice-chair in 2003.
I know Hackett. He really is a creep!!!
Crapdog, the same goes for me.
Anyway, yes, I take the fact that Tom Noe’s name is on the minutes of the Regents’ meeting as proof that he was at the communications committee meeting. The committee is part of the board of Regents, I’m sure other members of the regents were there too. And yes, it wouldn’t be hard to prove he wasn’t there, would it? Wouldn’t you think they keep minutes of these committee meetings? Wouldn’t those minutes say who was there…and if Noe’s name wasn’t on the list, then, well, he wouldn’t have been there?
And I’m going to keep assuming that Noe was there, and that Jean Schmidt had the connections with the typical Ohio Republican corruption that’s been exposed thus far. If the local media can report it as fact, then so can I. Besides, I’m in Des Moines, not Ohio. I’ll make judgments here on my end via what I know about Paul Hackett–that he’s served his country honorably, that he’s a Democrat, and he’s going to beat Jean Schmidt.
Personal feelings aside, what makes Hackett such a “creep”?
Chris Woods….you really are experiencing cognitive dissonance reagrding the meetings, the minutes, Jean Schmidt, and Tom Noe. THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING THAT SCHMIDT PRESENTED TO DO NOT INCLUDE NOE!!!
Holy Jeebus, how much clearer does it have to be????
Assume what you wish, BUT THAT DOES NOT MAKE IT SO. Cripes, is this what passes for critical thinking in librule circles???
Hackett is well-known as being dishonest, whiny, duplicitous, and disruptive.
The fact that he was waving around copies of the “evidence” in front of the TV cameras of the now demonstrably proven false claim that Schmidt was lying when she said she did not know Noe, despite the fact they were of dubious provenance says volumes about his character.
Also, when confronted by the local media about the obvious lies he spewed during his campaign, he admitted to the lies, but reasoned that they were OK because they would help him win.
He is scum, plain and simple.
Chris Woods…one more thing about the creepy Hackett. On the local stations, there is an ad showing Hackett with three other marines holding automatic weapons standing in front of the same bridge in Fallujah where the charred bodies of four American special forces were strung up.
Hackett never saw action. He was only playing dress up. He was a civil affairs officer and hardly left his desk. He’s trying to intimate that he was part of the fighting forces that cleared Fallujah.
And to me it is beyond disgusting that the Kos Klux Klan would tout Hackett’s Iraq service since they cheered when they saw the mutilated bodies of our brave servicemen hanging on that bridge in Fallujah.
Where are these minutes that you’re talking about? I’d like to see them. What I assume is that since he was a member of the board of Regents, that he was involved with the communications committee and saw the presentation by Jean Schmidt. Until I can read minutes that state otherwise, I will believe it. The minutes from the 21st board meeting only say that Noe was present at that meeting, not the one on the 20th. Until you can give me a link or something that confirms what you’re saying, I’m just going to keep on ignoring you.
So far, all the evidence that you’ve given me has all be heresay because, simply, you haven’t provided me a single, solid link to the things you’re claiming. If so much of this is true, don’t you think somewhere and somehow it would be documented? And I’m not going to do your work for you to find these links, you’re the one making the claims not me.
And what lies has he spewed? Again, links, substance, something beyond the droning of your increasingly annoying comments and insults.
Hackett did see combat, plain and simple. Here is a post from a fellow Schmidt supporter who even admitted so himself. LINK
And if you ever accuse Liberals and Kossacks or anyone else beyond the terrorists of cheering for the brutal and tragic deaths of American soldiers, you will be banned.
Chris Woods… you wrote:
“Hackett did see combat, plain and simple. Here is a post from a fellow Schmidt supporter who even admitted so himself.” LINK
Eric Minamyer is far from being a Schmidt supporter. His statement is based on what Hackett said and nothing more.
This is one of the lies I was referring to where Hackett admitted they were lies, but made him look good. Hackett was not in command of that convoy. Besides, how does one be attacked by an IED?
Cheez Whiz, Chris, you even state yourself that Noe is not listed in the minutes of the meeting of the 20th…THE MEETING AT WHICH SCHMIDT MADE HER PRESENTATION. Give it up, for crap’s sake.
Hey, don’t get testy about me commenting on the cheering of mutilated U.S. soldiers by the Kos Klux Klan. Blame them.
I understand your frustration, but quit making up fairy tales to support your false assretions. G’day.
Crapdog, you thick-headed numbskull, you simply aren’t understanding what I’m writing. What I said was that the minutes of the 21st SAY NOTHING about the meeting of the 20th. I want to know about the meeting on the 20th, but you can seem to give me anything more than your knowledge…which isn’t much, especially by looking at your spelling skills. Again, some links or evidence to back up your claims would be amazingly appreciated.
As for the stuff by Eric Minamyer, the man definitely was no Paul Hackett supporter. So, unless he was advocating not voting at all, he is, in my book, a tacit Schmidt supporter.
One is attacked by insurgents placing an IED on the side of the road, that’s how one is attacked in Iraq. And just because he wasn’t shot at doesn’t make his mission or time served in Iraq any less important. I don’t see you and your pals from the 101st Fighting Keyboards doing anything.
As for the comments about Kossacks and other liberals, what makes them racist and bigoted? (As implied by the Klux Klan comparison) And give me one example (in the form of a link, please) that shows that anyone beyond the terrorists and insurgents cheered.
Holy moley….do you actually read what you write? By not saying he was a Hackett supporter actually makes him a Schmidt supporter.
The Hermeneutic Circle is thusly closed. You are hopeless and helpless.
Regarding the Kos Klux Klan assignation….did not they have a picture of Klan Kleigle Robert Bird up on the site with a caption calling him a hero?
Did not Kos himself say “screw ‘em” in reference to the hanging charred bodies of U.S. soldiers? Isn’t that a lynching when something like this is done?
Do they not call for cyber-lynchings of those they disagree with? Remember the jihad against Greenspan?
Pardon the spelling errors, but my digits are just whizzing around the keyboard because I’m “camping out” at several different dark side blogs today.
There are two candidates in the Ohio 2nd. One is Paul Hackett. The other is Jean Schmidt. I suppose he could always write someone in as well. Or finally, he could choose not to vote. From his writings on his blog, he sure as hell seemed like a Schmidt supporter to me. He never said he wasn’t going to vote–and he never said he was going to write someone in. Since I haven’t asked the guy personally (and since I don’t know him), I’m assuming he’s supporting Schmidt. I’m sorry you don’t like Hermeneutic Circles, but mine operates just fine for me.
Robert Byrd has denounced his actions with the KKK and I’m sure he’s deeply sincere in those regards. Secondly, just because Markos posted something doesn’t mean every diarist on the site agrees with him. As it so happens, he has a lot of disagreements with fellow posters, which even led him to purge wacky conspiracy therorists from the site.
And I don’t believe Kos said “screw ‘em” in reference to the dead soldiers. Then again, I could be wrong. But like I’ve been asking all along: PROVIDE ME WITH A FUCKING LINK AND THEN I CAN ADEQUATELY RESPOND TO YOUR CLAIMS. I AM NOT GOING TO DO YOUR WORK FOR YOU, LAZY ASS.
Moreover, I haven’t seen any calls for cyber-lynchings or jihads. Of course, a link would be appreciated to back up your claim.
And I hope you’re having fun camping out. I just hope you won’t be afraid to have your address as well as other personal information revealed by moi…
(sigh)….Kos took down the post where he made that statement. However, Charles Johnson of LGF is a wiz and he was able to locate the cache. The following is the pertinent quote from the text of the Kos quote:
“Let the people see what war is like. This isn’t an Xbox game. There are real repercussions to Bush’s folly.
That said, I feel nothing over the death of merceneries. They aren’t in Iraq because of orders, or because they are there trying to help the people make Iraq a better place. ” Screw them.”
Now Chris…i have supported every claim i have made. You have not. You hide behind assumptions.
i may come off in a snide, joking manner, but I take this stuff seriously.
There is absolutely no demonstrable connection between Noe and Schmidt. Even if there were…big fucking deal!! My point is that the character of Hackett is so low that would lie and create a straw man to try to impugn the integrity of a good person.
I know both Hackett and Scmidt and believe me, Jean is the only honorable one in this race.
Chris Woods…the following is excerpted from a post by Davidnyc at DailyKos. this is what I mean by cyber-lynching. if you think it’s defensible, you’re quite wrong.
(Again, Kos removed the original post from the archives, but I managed to find an archive from another blog)
As you’ve probably noticed, there have been several Alan Greenspan-related posts on the main page in just the past day or so. In one of those threads, blogswarmer Bob Brigham suggested that we “unleash the blogosphere” on Greenspan. It’s a brilliant idea - no one is more worthy of having a halo-ectomy than St. Alan - so let’s have at it.
If you’re interested in joining this research project, here’s my thinking on how it should proceed. (And feel free to chime in with suggestions on the process as well.) We should hunt down anything Greenspan has ever written, said or done that reflects poorly on him. This would include erroneous predictions, older statements which contradict things he’s said recently, and anything that’s just plain wrong, venal or stupid. The only rules are that it has to be true (of course) and sourced (preferably with a link, but if you’re using Lexis, that’s cool too - just tell us where it’s from).
And for those of you who want to really get down & dirty in the trenches, we can turn this into a one-degree-of-separation venture. That is, if you can find similar material for anyone who is closely linked to Greenspan, that’s fair game, too. Good examples would be Greenie’s idol, the nutbag “objectivist” Ayn Rand, and Andrea Mitchell, his NBC reporter wife. (An aside: We can debate the merits of this approach all you like, but suffice it to say, there is no question that Republicans do the same crap to us all the time. If you still want to play by the Marquess of Queensberry rules, fine - but I’ve moved on to brass knuckles.)
If he took down the post, my guess is that he feels some kind of remorse for the statement. Anyway, can I at least get a link from LGF on that quote? I’m sorry, I just don’t take unattributed quotes from Charles Johnson to be fact.
And you haven’t supported any of the claims you’ve made beyond logical leaps and bounds? (and insults, I might add) I’ve provided you with two links in the comments, not to mention the ones in the actual post itself. You haven’t provided me with any. You told me Tom Noe wasn’t at the meeting where Jean Schmidt was, but you can’t show me minutes of that meeting? You say that there were calls for cyber-lynchings and jihads on dKos…any links for those assertions? You tell me that the local media “confronted” Hackett about lies from his campaign, but you can’t provide me a link for anything of the sort.
What I am supposed to believe: real links that prove something or your claims?
I would say there is nothing wrong with opposition research. Prove to me how that even resembles lynching in any conclusive way, and maybe I’ll say that some of the attack metaphors were wrong.
The Kos quote about the mercenaries is faairly widely known (but note, it isn’t about soldiers and is colored by his experiences with mercenaries in South America).
Crapdog,
Your opinions are fitting, given your nickname. I think it is interesting that someone like you will call Paul Hackett a creep, yet you won’t list your own name. Are you afraid that you will run into Mr. Hackett or one of his supporters on the street? You may get more than a verbal beating. Also, I see that your fingers are flying so fast on the keyboards of various blogs that you can’t be bothered with spelling and grammar. I’m surprised that a Republican such as yourself doesn’t have a job.
I know Paul Hackett personally. Paul was stationed one mile from Fallujah when the takedown happened. Paul awoke to mortar fire daily, that is, when he got to sleep. Also, unlike his superiors, Paul actually went out into the field and commanded troops, like the two troops at the rally on Saturday who were under his command. It is a joke and a sad commentary on the Repulican party that people like you will sit back in the good old USA, fat and happy, while others fight their battles in a war that should have never been started, based on bad intelligence. If you are so bad and gung ho to fight this war, why don’t you enlist in the Marines like Major Hackett?
Once again, your nickname is befitting.